>> mccain is a yes? barrasso says they'll pass it tonight? hang on. we'll see. >> all right. more on "happening now" starts right now. >> jon: we start with a fox news alert on another potential shake-up in the trump administration that surprises a lot of people this morning. good morning, welcome to "happening now." i'm jon scott. >> julie: i'm julie banderas. sources are telling fox secretary of state rex tillerson will be leaving his post in january. >> jon: john roberts is live with more on this developing story. >> nothing is a sure thing at the white house until it's a sure thing. sources inside and outside the administration are telling fox news that secretary of state rex tillerson is expected to leave his post. the likely time would probably be in late january. there is a couple of scenarios that are being discussed for how to replace him. the most likely scenario i'm told would be to take mike pompeo from his position at the

c.i.a. and move him to the state department to become the secretary. then the president would nominate arkansas senator tom cotton to be the next c.i.a. director. the president thinks pompeo is doing a terrific job at the c.i.a., knows the world well and has a tremendous respect for senator tom cotton who has been faithful to the president on most occasions, a couple of occasions where they parted ways. for the most part senator cotton has been supporting the president. potential second scenario being talked about. i say being talked about. i'm told it is far less likely than the first one, would be to move nikki haley from her post as the u.n. ambassador over to the state department and elevate dena powell who is a real power player at the national security counsel to the united nations and make her the u.n. ambassador and i'm told one of the things that is

being talked about is that ivanka trump could potentially be appointed a special envoy for women at the united nations, sources say she really wants to get back to new york city and the president would really like to find a prominent role for her. now, all of this being said, rex tillerson could still stay in his position. he may not leave. but the smart money is really riding on him leaving. the reason being that a lot of people at the state department and in the administration think he was never really a good fit there and certainly the president has been critical of him. now as to the timing of his departure, there is a potential tax break here that could be at play as well when he divested of his shares in exxonmobile. if he holds those for a year after being in public service he can cash those out at least his investment at a much lower tax rate than he would have had he not stayed for a year. that might play into the timing as well. the other thing the president

really looking toward here is a vote on tax reform in the senate. i'm told the white house believes there could be a vote. talked about maybe after midnight tonight. maybe sometime tomorrow morning. the white house had concerns about three senators, that's now down to two. the white house still concerned about senators corker and flake who want this trigger mechanism to either increase -- to increase taxes if the revenue projections do not come to pass. there was also talk about maybe spending cut if the revenue projections don't come to pass. they're stuck on the idea of a tax hike. the white house doesn't like it but will swallow it to get passage. you saw senator john mccain in there. the big news reported before the top of the hour he released a statement to say he is on board with the tax reform plan and he will vote yes for it. the president yesterday in st. charles, missouri putting on a big sale and a lot of pressure on members of congress to get this thing through. listen here.

>> president trump: this is the right time. we have a moment in time, the republicans have the senate, the republicans have the house, the republicans have the white house. it's very unusual. very unusual. >> white house sources tell fox news things are looking good for a yes vote in the senate but they remind they have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory before on obamacare. they aren't counting their chickens before they hatch. the president again in a war of words with u.k. prime minister theresa may over the president's retweet yesterday morning of three videos posted on twitter by the group britain first. theresa may saying that britain first is a hateful organization and that she is not afraid to say that president trump did the wrong thing in this case. listen here. >> the fact that we work together does not mean that we are afraid to say when we think the united states has got it

wrong. and to be very clear with them. i'm very clear that retweeting from britain first was the wrong thing to do. >> but the president is digging in his heels taking to twitter saying to her on twitter, don't focus on me, focus on the destructive radical islamic terrorism taking place within the united kingdom. we're doing just fine. the white house insisted by retweeting the videos the president was trying to highlight the threat that the united states and other nations face from radical islamic terrorism. at least one of the three videos that he retweeted has been called into question as to its authenticity. there are some people here in the administration definitely, john, don't think the president did the right thing. >> jon: another interesting thursday at the white house. john roberts, thank you. >> julie: and the hour just began. we have much more. the senate moving ahead on tax reform beginning its debate on

its bill and a floor vote could come as soon as tonight. senator john mccain saying he is a yes on the plan. that's a very good sign for the gop. several senators along with the head of the small business administration meeting with entrepreneurs in just the last hour to highlight the importance of tax reform. chairman of the senate republican policy committee john barrasso driving home that point earlier on "america's newsroom." listen. >> from the day that donald trump was elected president a little over a year ago we have had two million new jobs added to the economy and now tax relief is the next step. i believe we are ready to really have the economy grow at a much faster rate. we are now on the cusp of a very strong and healthy economy that lets people keep more of their hard-earned money. >> julie: mike emanuel is live from capitol hill with more. >> good morning. senator john mccain saying that he thinks this tax reform

package while not perfect would help american competitiveness and help the middle class and bring tax relief. that is a critical staff in the effort for republican leaders to get to 50 yes votes to pass tax reform on the senate floor. a flurry of activity on the senate floor in the hours ahead. perhaps a final passage vote late night tonight or early tomorrow. those behind the tax reform push say the tax reform package should have a huge impact. >> a number of people here today who know they will be affected by this bill in a positive way who look forward to seeing the next steps as we get this closer to being on the president's desk. i'm convinced that is going to happen. >> just before the mccain announcement a short time ago the senate majority leader sounded hopeful they were close to making this happen. >> we're on the cusp of a great victory for the country and particularly for small business. we're in the stretch. horse racing is kind of a big

deal in kentucky. we're going down the homestretch headed toward the finish line either late tonight or early tomorrow. >> as for democrats, they are expressing some frustration. if republicans stay unified there is little they can do to make a difference. they're saying at this point they think the tax package could have been a lot better with outreach from republicans. >> we didn't have hearings on this bill. and as you said in the lead-up here, there will be lots of amendments tonight that will change it. change it again and change it again before it ultimately comes through the senate. it will probably pass sometime very late tonight. >> final vote timing is unclear. there are senators dealing with significant health issues and so there is some thought if they get fatigued tonight perhaps they come back tomorrow morning and finish up. >> julie: jon. >> jon: president trump taking his tax reform message to the show-me state telling people in missouri the tax plan is a chance to restore american

prosperity as the measure gains momentum in the u.s. senate. >> president trump: tax cuts have already passed the house of representatives. [cheering and applause] big ones, big ones. the eyes of the world now turn to the united states senate. a successful vote in the senate this week will bring us one giant step closer to delivering an incredible victory for the american people, massive tax cuts and reform. >> jon: richard rueben, reporter for the "wall street journal." why did the president take that message to missouri of all places? he had choice words for claire mccaskill the state's democratic senator but he wasn't going to get her on board and even the vote to get the vote going was 52-48, a republican/democrat party line vote. >> look, what he is trying to do is put pressure on her for

2018. she is up for reelection next year and looking to expand the majority they have in the senate right now and looking at states where he won in 2016 as ways to go do that. as we've seen so far this year the 52/48 majority allows them to get some things done but not as much as they want. >> jon: the republicans haven't had any huge legislative achievements. tax reform is their one probably last big chance in this calendar year. are they going to do it? do they have the votes? >> they are definitely getting closer. announcement from senator mccain this morning makes a big difference. he was one of the hold-outs. his concerns are process and substance. it wasn't really clear at all where he was going to come down on this. so that narrows the number of senators who are waivering or uncommitted here. there are no firm no votes at this point. they are in pretty good shape. they have work to do in finalizing some of the details and getting the last few members on board. >> jon: what about the notion

of triggers? this thing would initially come with a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit attached. the idea is that if the economy doesn't perform as well as expected under this tax plan there would be automatic tax hike triggers. are republicans inclyde to vote for something like that. >> republicans are inclined to vote for something like that if that's what it takes to get it done. you have three senators who are republicans and want some sort of trigger. they are concerned about the potential deficit effect and what happens if it grows. they are trying to finalize how that trigger would work. how it works mechanically and how it fits in some of the senate's parliamentary rules. >> jon: just from a nuts and bolts kind of aspect. when are we talking about these new rates or new tax plans taking effect, assuming the senate does get it passed and

they get together with the house? are we talking about 2018 taxes? what does the taxpayer do? >> most of this would take effect for tax year 2018. the corporate rate cuts would start later under the senate bill. it would affect for wage earners, your withholding starting in january and then it will really -- you'll see it for real on the tax returns you file in april of 2019. >> jon: one of the options being floated out there is to reduce the tax rate from 35% to 22% for corporations. the president has always said he wants 20%. where does that stand? >> that's up in the air. there are a couple different proposals to bump the rate to 21 or 22. one getting a lot of attention is from marco rubio and mike lee. they want to use it to make the child credit larger. they pay for that by setting

the corporate rate instead of 22. senator collins is uncommitted on the bill wants to raise the corporate rate a little bit. she has some priorities on childcare tax credits and other things she is looking at. there are a number of different options out there. taking that corporate rate to 21 or 22 is one of the ways that republicans are thinking about potentially paying for that. >> jon: richard rueben watching it for us from the "wall street journal." thanks for your expertise. >> julie: president trump is set to be considering relocating the u.s. embassy in israel from tel aviv to jerusalem. we're live on the ground with reaction. plus matt lauer breaking his silence one day after he was fired. what he is saying about shocking allegations of sexual misconduct during his years at the "today" show. >> matt lauer has been terminated from nbc news.

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>> there are no words to express my sorrow and regret. to the people i have hurt i'm truly sorry. >> julie: "today" show anchor savannah guthrie reading matt lauer's statement on the "today" show 24 hours after announcing her co-anchor had been fired over allegations of sexual misconduct. many more accusers are coming forward and shocking new details are being reported. the question is why did nbc move so fast in firing matt lauer? howard kurtz joins me now. yesterday i said there had to have been some kind of hard proof. i meant photographic evidence or physical evidence. that was the case. what do you think of his firing so quickly? >> first i have to say that was

a full throated and apparently heart felt apoll -- apology. he said there are no words to explain away the details. it is increasingly clear now that nbc moved quickly to fire its biggest star in an effort to control the narrative and put out almost no details about the misconduct and to push him out the door before "the new york times" and variety could public these stories with very graphic and devastating details. >> julie: tell me about your sources who say that nbc news supposedly knew that variety was preparing this article as far as two weeks ago and nbc started their investigation then? >> i'm told by insiders there are two separate questions here. i'm told that nbc news that two major news organizations with preparing the story. then there is the related

question of whether the current or previous management at nbc had no idea with so many women over the years that matt lauer had done any of this? i apologize because it's graphic, "the new york times" reporting a staffer who lauer had sex with in his office years ago who feared for her job, she passed out during the encounter and his assistant had to take her to the nurse. that kind of thing nbc was trying to get out ahead of. >> julie: the chairman of nbc says it's first time that any allegations or complaints have been made. but if they knew the story was brewing, perhaps they knew of it two weeks ago but in the last 20 years they didn't know? some of these allegations about matt lauer coming out after the firing first of all let's put them out. nbc fires lauer for inappropriate behavior. the accuser met with her lawyer and we'll go through the rest of the allegations. stand by, we have some breaking

news. >> jon: big developments at the white house this morning. the president asked about it during an appearance with the crown prince of berain. let's listen in. >> president trump: it's my great honor to have the crown prince of bahrain in the overall office. we're doing a lot of business and they're buying a lot of things. i heard $9 billion is thrown about. a very nice trip and we appreciate it. we've had a long relationship and a great relationship and it will only get better. i can tell you they have been and you have been a great friend and we appreciate it very much and we appreciate you being at the white house. >> thank you, mr. president. it is a great honor to be here. this is a very important trip for us. and indeed we are building on 100 years relationship between the kingdom of bahrain and the united states of america. the peoples of both countries have benefited from this relationship and we continue to seek ways to strengthen that. thank you for honoring me with

the meeting. >> president trump: it's a great honor. thank you. >> president trump: rex is here. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. thank you. >> jon: as usual the questions from the press have very little to do with the visiting dignitary, the crown prince of bahrain in this question. reports are the secretary of state will resign sometime in january of 2018. the president's response he is here. read into that what you will. julie. >> julie: okay, we're going to take a quick commercial break and come back and bring howard kurtz back on talking about the allegations against matt lauer, the swift response by nbc and exactly how long this investigation perhaps was going on considering there are sources telling howard kurtz

that inside nbc they were tipped off that variety, which broke the story, had prepared this story as of two weeks ago. we'll dive into that next.

>> julie: going back on the matt lauer scandal. joining me now is howie kurtz. we were talking about the sexual misconduct allegations, the firing happened after inappropriate sexual misconduct that nbc admitted and got ahead of the story. but you also point out that perhaps they knew that variety was going to be dishing out the rest of the dirt which we later found out because two more accusers came forward. one basically said that matt lauer once gave her a sexual toy as a present and in it

included an explicit note about how he wanted to use it on her which left her mortified. that's a quote. another day he summoned a different employee to his office and dropped his pants and after the employee refused to do so he reprimanded her. in 2001 he summoned a married female employee to the office, locked the door and sexually assaulted her until she passed out. the details of that one is a bit difficult -- that he had a button under his desk and press the button and lock the door and then the woman sat down in front of him as he sat in front of her. he told her to unbutton her blouse. she did so and the next thing they are having sex in his office and she wakes up on the floor. >> it is really ugly stuff. more seems to be coming out by the hour. i don't think there is any

question nbc knew but what they know over the last 20 years given the pattern of this behavior. these questions have been raised by cbs and charlie rose and fox news and msnbc and other organizations have gone through this. nbc people have said on the air it was an open secret. there are rumors. some of that may have been about philandering not this kind of sexual assault or misconduct. i think there were a lot of unanswered questions now because matt lauer was such a big star, $25 million a year, interviewing presidents holding down the "today" show which made half a billion dollars in revenue this year. was the incentive too great not follow up on the rumors. >> julie: what's interesting is the flood of accusers coming out and it is interesting -- i'm not quite sure maybe you

can make something of this. it came on the heels of harvey weinstein. that opened the floodgates. when we had scandals at fox news channel everybody loved bashing fox news channel but you didn't see the same support, if you will. and then since harvey weinstein came out, now all of a sudden it's become let's all unify together with #me too. that didn't happen after it happened here. it seems a bit of a double standard. nonetheless it is the way of today. >> there is a lot of partisanship in the reaction to these scandals and allegations. so it was seen as a fox problem. not a cultural or american problem. once it was harvey weinstein, kevin spacey and people who are working for places like nbc, msnbc, now it not only changed the culture in terms of women coming forward but the coverage became this is a real societal problem we have to do something about and have a conversation

about. and you see it on capitol hill. democrats more likely to jump on allegations against a roy moore. republicans more likely to deal with the mounting allegations against al franken and john conyers. one of whose accusers went public last night with martha maccallum. >> julie: as i like to say, zero tolerance should be a bipartisan issue. this is proof it's not. sadly let's hope times are changing. howie kurtz, thank you. >> jon: a fox news alert. nancy pelosi seems to be changing her tune just a bit regarding the longest-serving member of congress john conyers of michigan. he has been addressed with sexual misconduct allegations of his own. here is what the house minority leader says now. >> i said he should resign. >> jon: he should resign. sexual misconduct bringing down giants in the media and

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>> jon: the speaker of the house paul ryan. >> we look forward to him accepting our invitation. lastly, on tax reform, i want to make sure that you saw this letter. this letter from 137 economists across the ideological spectrum to congress that we received yesterday. i want to read two sentences from this letter. the question isn't whether american workers are hurt by our country's corporate tax it's how badly. the enactment of comprehensive overall complete with a lower tax rate will ignite our economy with levels of growth not seen in generations. this is one reason why tax

reform is the single biggest thing we can do to help families and workers. with faster growth you get bigger paychecks. with faster growth you get better paying jobs. with faster growth you get a higher standard of living. of course, the focus of this plan is on hard-working american families and that's why we're providing the significant tax relief for them as well. that's the whole purpose of this. to help people who are living paycheck to paycheck keep more of their own money in the first plus and to help them make more money and find better paying jobs. tax reform will make such a big difference for americans of all walks of life. we're looking forward to the senate taking action on their bill and we're excited they're on the floor right now working on tax reform. once they do as the majority indicated yesterday, we'll move to go to conference committee as soon as possible. questions. casey. >> [inaudible question]

>> marian brown, is that her name? i heard what she said this morning on nbc. no one should have to go through something like that let alone here in congress. i think he should resign immediately. i've just been briefed on the allegations and i think he should. your second question on tax reform. i'm not a guy in the guarantee business. i can only control this side of the capitol. i'm confident we can get this done this year. [inaudible question] >> it would be nice if they show to meetings and participate in the negotiations necessary to not just keep the government open but get a cap agreement. i don't know why they decided

not to show up for these negotiations. when you negotiate legislation, congress passes a bill, the president signs it, and that's why congress and the president negotiate legislation. i did it when bush and obama were president. donald trump is our president. people should show up for negotiations. so i'm getting there. when they go and decide not to participate in negotiations they're not in a good place to make any kind of demand. we'll have to have a short-term cr. the duration of that we are in talks with our own members and having a conference with our members to go through all of that. stay tuned on that. i would also like to point out the fact that the house has passed all the appropriation bills. the house passed all 12 appropriation bills in september. so we here in the house i think for the first time since 2004 have passed all 12 appropriation bills ahead of the fiscal year deadline. as you all know, the senate can

filibuster those things. so we will pass a short-term cr that is necessary to keep the government open, to keep talks going. hopefully people decide to participate in these talks. p the senate democrats choose to filibuster that then they choose to shut the government down. something we don't want to see happen. [inaudible question] i won't comment on end games with tax reform or conference committee issues. i think the senate did a very good job of not commenting on our delivered process while we were processing tax reform. i want to respect their process and not comment on their deliberations while they're considering tax reform. all these issues and number of other questions about the amendment going through today. those things the senate has to work out and we'll work with

the senate in the conference committee in the endgame. i won't comment on any of their deliberations right now. [inaudible question] >> i'll have to get back to you on it. [inaudible question] >> i have spoken with him and i will continue speaking with him. handkerchief, druker. you have one on there. [inaudible question]

>> you know what turns it around? economic growth, jobs, more take home pay, bigger paychecks, more confidence in the economy. companies bringing money into america from overseas. sure, you can see -- what people don't see a law passing and results occurring and banter on television and pundits arguing against each other will be confused and they are going to be misled in certain directions. results are what matter. we're in the results business here and that's why getting this done -- i was shaking my head up and down meaning we'll go to conference. this is such an important piece of legislation.

you don't skip the legislative process. you go through the regular legislative process. we'll go to a conference committee. [inaudible question] >> i'm not going to get into the finer details of the endgame in conference like i answered andy. you had one back there? [inaudible question] >> i don't think it will be in time for this current cr we're doing only because they have eight hearings this week on it. let's just say there was a level of dissatisfaction with these delegations with the omb submission and we've asked the appropriateors to get together with these delegations to discuss the supplemental and compiling a disaster

supplemental. it will take them more than a few days to do this. they're doing eight hearings this week on it. it will take the appropriateors and the delegations, puerto rico, texas, florida, louisiana, it will take them time to work it out. but we anticipate moving as quickly as we can. we know a few days is not going to be enough. it will take longer than that. [inaudible question] >> in the what? what case? i'm not tracking with you. [inaudible question] >> i haven't given any thought to it. i got nothing for you. one more. [inaudible question] >> you know, you have to show

up if you want to make your point. and i don't think democrats are in a very good position to be making demands if they aren't going to participate in the negotiations necessary to move legislation forward and solve problems. do we have to have a daca solution? yes, we do. the deadline is march as far as i understand it. we have other deadlines in front of that like fiscal year deadlines and appropriation deadlines. but if they want to get to a solution they ought to come to the table and start talking. i won't negotiate to the media with all due respect. thanks, everybody. >> jon: now you have the speaker of the house, the most powerful representative in the house of representatives, along with his democratic counterpart the minority leader house minority leader nancy pelosi both saying john conyers, the embattled congressman for michigan the longest serving member of the house should resign this over allegations of sexual impropriety even with members of his own staff.

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someone in any other field. as the net has spread and enveloped prominent democrats and republicans sexual abuse allegations are turning into yet another battle in a zero sum partisan war where distinctions are lost between egregious acts and lesser offenses. thank both of you for being here. i want to get to the breaking news before we get into this. secretary of state rex tillerson said to be resigning in january. david, we heard moments ago from the president. he was asked about it he only answered he is here. we don't know much. i understand you spoke with someone at the state department on this. what do you know? >> a reminder that since rex tillerson took office there has been store -- stories he was going to resign. there were a lot of people who would like to be secretary of state. floating this continual story

helps them continue to do that. rex tillerson is secretary of state until he is not. right now he is still secretary of state. >> julie: not much to make of this, david, then? >> not yet, not until tillerson resigns. we've heard these stories since the day he started. >> julie: i want to get back to the sexual allegations, misconduct allegations against people in washington in politics because we just heard speaker paul ryan reiterate that democratic congressman john conyers should step down. to be fair he also called allegations against republican senate candidate roy moore credible and should step down. you hear people being accused of these things and getting fired in the private sector. if you work for washington it's a different rule david. >> it's not a different rule but speaker ryan said actions are what matter. he talked about the tax reform vote but it is every bit as

applicable in this situation. that's why congress needs to pass and get rid of this slush fund that pays sexual harassment settlements. members of congress can use campaign funds and set up a legal fund. they should be required to use their own funds to pay out legal harassment. action is what matters. congress should end this slush fund. two other things need to happen. one, voters need to be the ones calling an asking him to resign. people in conyers' district while it's fine the speaker and pelosi come out and say he should resign it's the voters of his district that matter. they should be calling and two, it requires republicans to get somebody better than john conyers to run against him so he gets defeated just as it should happen in every district. parties need to get better candidates to run against folks who are not representing their constituents. >> julie: congressman james clyburn has argued conyers accusers may not be credible

because they're white and when asked why a different standard for politicians, listen to this. >> other men in other industries have faced similar accusations and gotten out of the way. resigned, stepped down far faster than he has. right? >> you have to give some examples. >> harvey weinstein, charlie rose, matt lauer. >> who elected them? >> julie: in other words, you elected someone you didn't know at the time was, i don't know, accused of sexual misconduct and since you elected them you are stuck with him. isaac? >> david makes a good point about the fact that voters have to make a decision here and take a stand. i think we should applaud people like speaker ryan, like leader pelosi who have stood up and taken a stand. it would be great if we could see that moral leadership from the white house where they have

been kellyanne conway to the networks to rally support for roy moore in alabama's election. i hope president trump will join bipartisan leadership in the congress saying enough is enough. this is a simple issue. sexual harassment and sexual abuse is wrong period. >> julie: thank you both isaac and david. >> jon: for the latest on the north korean nuclear stand-off after the launch of another powerful missile sparks fears that we could be on the brink of war.

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>> jon: new information on the north korea crisis with tough talk from nikki haley our ambassador to the united nations on the regime's launch of a long-range missile.

one that could reach the entire u.s. main land. dennis wilder is joining us, former special assistant to the president and senior director for east asian affairs at the national security council. ambassador haley said the launch brings us closer to war. does it in your view? >> i think ambassador haley was right to make such a strong statement. we are in a scary situation. the north korean leader is building more and more powerful missiles. north korean diplomats talk about going to putting a nuclear weapon on it and exploding that weapon in space to demonstrate their capabilities. if he were to do that, we would get fallout in south korea, japan, even over the united states. the north korean leader is hell bent to have his nuclear capability and we've got to find a way to stop him. >> jon: we squeezed his nation

with new sanctions, added them to the list of state sponsors of terror. what more can we do? >> well, i think ambassador haley's message was to the chinese and quite clear. you haven't done enough yet, china. china continues to provide the bulk of the oil that goes into north korea. the only thing they've agreed to on the oil front is to cut their oil sales to north korea by about 10%. that isn't enough to push him into serious negotiations. china has got to get more serious. they can't just keep their head in the sand on this issue. it is getting too dangerous. >> jon: i wish we had more time. we were truncated by various announcement by washed. professor wilder, thank you. >> julie: former nbc anchor matt lauer breaking his silence as more accusations emerge against him. what he is saying about his actions next. by using tide.

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